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Had the Realization I Had Done Something Stupid
4-Fluoromethamphetamine
Citation:   Tviewer. "Had the Realization I Had Done Something Stupid: An Experience with 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (exp118262)". Erowid.org. Nov 16, 2024. erowid.org/exp/118262

 
DOSE:
  oral 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (powder / crystals)
BODY WEIGHT: 85 kg
[Erowid Note: The dose described in this report is very high, potentially beyond Erowid's 'heavy' range, and could pose serious health risks or result in unwanted, extreme effects. Sometimes extremely high doses reported are errors rather than actual doses used.]
First Time 4FMA, Overdose

I got 5g of that stuff a month ago. I was alone at home around 9pm. Poured a glass of water and eyeballed around half a gram, stirred and drunk it. It had a very sour taste. I had a friend who snorted it told me it was not that potent and so I decided to pour more than 200mg which I learned was the strongest dose you can have. However, he was snorting it and I drunk it which makes a huge difference as a learned. I had done a huge dose of psilocybin mushrooms for my first time and smoked DMT so I made the mistake of thinking "what's the worst that could happen, I will be alright once it wears off".
I made the mistake of thinking "what's the worst that could happen, I will be alright once it wears off".


After about 15 minutes of me listening to music I made a move to grab my phone to change the song and then it HIT me. There was no subtlety, one moment I was fine and the other I was in a rush!! (The rest of the information I can't recall perfectly because it felt like a was in a dream.) First think I noticed was my heart beating rapidly and me taking quick breaths, I layed on the bed and tried to control my breathing. I was not scared at this point, my vision was hightened but could not focus on anything. I opened my phone and searched for side effects and duration of this substance and at this point I had the realization that I had done something stupid.

Next thing I did is to text a friend of mine and explain the situation, but I couldn't. Every time I would tap a letter it would move and another one would take its place. So I was chasing around letters on my phone screen with my finger, thought it was pretty funny at the moment, what I sent was half gibberish at the end. After not responding to my incoherent texts I called a cousin of mine to come check on me. My jaw kept locking, rapid heart rate, I started sweating a lot and I felt numbness on my limbs, all the side effects I had read so far. On the phone with my cousin my speech was slurred I couldnt talk properly. I left the phone playing music and I started melting on the bed (because of the excess sweating) on top of me was the aircondition working on 19°C. Looking a the aircon displaying 19 tempreture, I started to notice the numbers popped out and were dancing on the air. I wasn't expecting hallucination but then again I took too much.

I also now realized than touching my skin felt different, smooth and I felt the back of my head hot. Eventually, I get up (fast pace) and I move from the bedroom to the kitchen passing by an armchair with a doll on it. In the kitchen I observe the effects 4fma has on my body, I am starting to get a bit paranoid and then I realise there was never an armchair with the doll on it, another hallucination. After about 10 minutes of me listening to music and strolling around the house I hear a door knock, I get paranoid for a second but I knew it was my cousin. He comes in and immediately sees that I am not well, he ask me multiple times if I was ok and to be honest at that point I was not feeling that bad, it was a euphoric feeling. We smoke a joint, while talking about the drug. He noticed my dilated pupils and he was right, on the mirror it looked like my eyes are gonna pop out. After we smoke, he rolls another 1 for me, tells me to call if anything is wrong and leaves.

At this point I believe 4 hours have past since injestion and the mdma-like effects of the drug are starting to wear off. Now I just want to lay in bed below the aircondition which is what I do after drinking a bit of water (drinking water felt funny). After laying in bed I lost track of time, was I in bed for 10 minutes or for an hour?I was perfectly still and started to feel a disconnect between body and soul, I felt like I could not move. Some time passed and I thought this is ridiculous I need to get up.... Took me about 5 minutes to finally do it. (it felt pretty mellow laying in bed!)

Now I am curious how would an orgasm feel under this drug. I was starting to get aroused but my body was not cooperating. I read that one of the side effects was erectile disfunction, so I give up and lay in bed trying to go to sleep with no success. Until the morning light reached me I would try to sleep while lightly hallucinating. I would see transparent lines connecting each other forming transparent people or different weird forms, either looking at me or strolling around the room. At this point most of the euphoria of the drug has wear off and I am left with the side effects. The morning and the next 3 days that followed I had an empty feeling, like whatever I do does not matter so why do it. The side effects I mentioned persisted, the worst of them being fatigue and insomnia also my heartrate was not right.

After day 3 of no sleep and the side effects coming and going I had enough, went to the hospital and finally after explaining to the doctor what happened he gave me some xanax and I finally slept for 6 hours. It took me a week to feel like myself after this huge dose
It took me a week to feel like myself after this huge dose
and from day 2 onwards I was freaking out thinking I permanently damage my brain and I would be in a constant trip state like some datura stories I read. It was the insomnia that was the root of my paranoia, I had to take xanax way earlier. Now I always keep some in case something similar might happen.

About 4FMA I can see how it can be fun in correct doses of course. However, after this terrifying experience I sold all of it dirt cheap just to get rid of it. I decided it was not for me, might try it again but not anytime soon. I felt there was a miscommunication between my body and my mind. I did not know when I was hungry or thirsty, hot or cold. I could pass an entire day without peeing because the feeling "you need to pee" never came. I ate because I had to and there was no enjoyment even if the food looked delicious. From what I read I messed up my seratonin and dopamine receptors.

I wrote this story in case someone is in a similar situation and needs to read this, the drug can get dangerous and life threatening. It puts a lot of pressure in your heart and causes neurotoxicity/seizures in large doses. Seek help and consider a xanax or benzo it could save a you A LOT of headache.

Exp Year: 2024ExpID: 118262
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: Not Given
Published: Nov 16, 2024Views: 15
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