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Erowid Guestbook Comments and Suggestions
July-December 1999


I love Psychadelic drugs. I use them in the privacy of my own home, and I should be able to. These drugs should be legal for those of us who can demonstrate the responsibility. So much thanks goes out to the web-masters of this site. They're helping to fight the battle for ALL of us.
JP
- Friday, December 31, 1999 at 18:43:02 (PST)

Well I seldom sign guestbooks unless I really feel the desire to do so, and this is the case right now, because thanks to your useful information, my life has changed in ways I couldn't imagine before, positively obvious, so I wanted to thank all the staff who works here that help us to achieve spiritual enlightment with your varied info, I also want to say hi to all the people like me who enjoy visiting erowid and has a positive impact on their lifes. peace
mexican psychonaut
- Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 21:47:19 (PST)

On Christmas day I met GHB. Due to gross misinformation as to WHAT it was, dosage, effect, safety etc, I OD'd having taken about 9 grams with C, E and Alcohol to boot. My search brought me here, which ranks as THE most educational and informative site to date. Thank you.
Justin, Johannesburg , South Africa
- Tuesday, December 28, 1999 at 04:30:03 (PST)

I stumbled on the Vaults a couple of days ago--thank God!! They contain everything one would need to know when considering a mind-altering experience or reflecting on a recent one. Definitely one of my favorite sites!
Ana Catalano
- Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 22:34:10 (PST)

A highly commendable effort to place useful knowledge before the public for better-informed decisions and thus greater societal well-being. The best kind of subversiveness.
The book entitled "Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do" by Peter McWilliams, 1993, hardback ISBN 0-931580-53-6 (also available in paperback) addresses the subject of so-called consensual crimes, an oxymoron that is symptomatic of an oppressive society based on non-life-supporting cultural myths.
Spaceship Earth
Bob
- Saturday, December 25, 1999 at 09:02:00 (PST)

Unreal!!! The Erowid Vaults are the best information on the net! Peace and love to all.
Angela Vines
- Wednesday, December 22, 1999 at 00:31:41 (PST)

whoa, this was an interesting page. very informative page. the erowid vaults are unreal. all the captions and pictures just put this page over the top. i totally swept away by all the info on the legal and illegal drugs. totally cool page. got hallucinogens?
junior
- Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 20:50:17 (PST)

hello, my name is hugo quejido and i´m writing from spain. i have always consumed cannabis and deriveds, but lately i have had to diminish the frecuency of this marvellous habit because of the next problem of wich no one seems to know anything and i have not been able to find any info to solve it. it has happened repeatedly for the past years but randomly. after smoking pot i feel the normal effects, but after a while it gets to a point in wich i start loosing sensibility in my hands, like if they were put to sleep. i feel a strange tingling, like pins and needles in my hands, that gets more intense when touching things. depending on what i touch the feeling gets stronger or softer (touching my skin or hair the sensation is very intense but touching plastic or glass it almost disappears). it is nothing pleasent. when i´m high all my attention goes to this problem almost obsessively. but the worst part is that this disagreeable sensation does not disappear with the marihuana effects, but it lasts even for several days, vanishing little by little. nobody, no doctors, no naturists seem to know where this problem comes from and how to solve it. i would appreciate any info about this problem or people to contact to find a solution.

waiting for your words i thank you beforehand. HUGO QUEJIDO.

hugo quejido
- Tuesday, December 21, 1999 at 06:11:52 (PST)

Very nice site. Very intelectually stimulating content. Makes you realize how the population is a buncha ignorant peons being brainwashed by the people at the top. We are told what to believe and are taught to gain happiness from it. We all need to open our eyes to see what the real truth is.
Suzaku
- Friday, December 17, 1999 at 03:29:37 (PST)

I would just like to thank your group. It is nice in the age of fun monitoring and Mrs. Cravitzing, to find an objective source of information. It is nice to be able to ask without implicated.
Joseph R. Cummings
- Tuesday, December 14, 1999 at 13:32:48 (PST)

Great Web !!! Info in all categories. U can get the info in 1 place. And all the info you waz dreaming of.
More Chemistry. How to make or extract.
LoveBug
- Friday, December 10, 1999 at 12:42:02 (PST)

Thanks! Your Site and Helpfulness are greatly appreciated.
Jamie
- Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 06:58:45 (PST)

I think that Erowid is the most informative site on the net regarding etheogens, I prefer it greatly to the lycaeum, owing to the fact I was banned from the IRC chat, whether thats a fault of the Lycauem is unknown to me. However Erowid has been good to me and has an extensive amount of knowledge and links, highyly reccomended.
__Flatliner__, Paroxysm
- Saturday, December 04, 1999 at 03:59:49 (PST)

EROWID.ORG, a full and worthy competetor/coworker to LYCAEUM.ORG A dam good site, I have started to acces erowid more often the lycaeum these days. I really like your works, nice layout and meaty information.
john doe
- Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 13:45:26 (PST)

I'm on the net for 3 months now. Surfing and surfing around the globe. I have seen many sites so far. I feel the need to say that your side is the best by far. Of course I'm interested in the subject but also the layout and structure are of great quality. Paul Hoffman, The Netherlands
Paul Hoffman
- Tuesday, November 30, 1999 at 06:43:28 (PST)

The Erowid Vaults have been a wonderful, exciting and educational means for myself and others to learn about the various forms of drugs, both legal and illegal. I was inspired by their example and felt that the only thing lacking was information telling all of the readers HOW to obtain many of the chemicals available. Thus, I have created a site (and as it turns out, a fairly lucritive business) on how to obtain prescription medications, including various narcotics, legally, from overseas online pharmacies. I have spent much time researching the ones I recommend (there are alot of them out there, not all are legit) and the result is a database of Online Pharmacies that I KNOW are reliable, inexpensive and SAFE! The resulting site is "The Online Pharmacy Database". It can be reached at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/2298/TheOnlinePharmacyDatabase.html I really feel that I and my partners are providing a valuable service and that this is the "Missing Link" when it comes to the Vault. For example, I give information on how to obtain tablets containing codeine. My site also will allow you to obtain Xanax, Valium, other benzos, other opiate derivatives like hydrocodone (Lortab, Vicodin) not to mention MANY other medications like Viagra, Xenical, Soma, even some steroids (not that I recommend their use). I hope this is of some help to all of the readers of the The Erowid Vaults.
More information on how to obtain prescription medications without a prescription. That's what the site above is about.
The Online Pharmacy Database
Douglas B. Bond, Jr.
- Monday, November 29, 1999 at 19:05:39 (PST)

Praise. Just recently, i found the vaults of Erowid. The information (Plants & Drugs) is precise and clear. Here, in Finland, there's a certain line of thinking about the useful information of drugs: It's a tabu. I have a quite neutral intrest on drugs, spirit and mind. Living as a polar Gonzo-journalist is a hard way, you see ;) There's lot to about drugs, and maybe someday the scientific research would again focus on them, without the all-american drug hysteria. I suppose that pages like this really can help to remove the paranoia which clouds the issue. But there really isn't that much to say, not with my english (sorry about that, it really sucks). What i CAN say is: thank you. -S
Samael Kuosmanen
- Monday, November 29, 1999 at 09:04:06 (PST)

Wow! I'm impressed! This page goes in as my absolute favourite. It's the best I have ever seen! Thank you "guys" for putting it all together! Love your work. Peace, love and justice for all! (c: Your sincerly, Nagaika
Under martial arts, why not include som Jiu Jitsu-links? This art is the real one, spiritually and all.... (c:
PlanetSoul
Nagaika, aka Lars
- Sunday, November 28, 1999 at 17:47:27 (PST)

It is a shame that America, once a leader in "Freedom", is now content to be one of the most brainwashed countries in regards to Sacraments. (As they should be properly called - not "drugs") I am disheartened anytime I talk to people who are convinced they know everything about them - when they are really repeating the govt's propaganda. Your website is well-researched and informative - Your banner should be on all the heavily trafficked websites. Maybe that way the ignorant will be taught!
Dasia
- Friday, November 26, 1999 at 02:15:32 (PST)

I am absolutley amazed! This site has EVERYTHING you need to know, want to know, and sometimes don't want to know. PERFECT!
j.a.h.
- Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 20:46:52 (PST)

just wanted to say ,this site is so tight......you guys have information on everything,that really clears up a lot of myths and questions i had.....thanks erowid......keep up the good work
david m
- Wednesday, November 24, 1999 at 17:12:47 (PST)

Well folks, it seems like the link put on yesterday won't work as an extra http:// got in there. So, this time I think it will work for you. The research and information in this brief may save someone's freedom.....it certainly would cost a fortune and take a Dream Team of lawyers to put this together. While a distillation of longer briefs on the three major sections, the complete research and long versions are available, if one is in need. Namaste
Atley v. Iowa, U.S. Supreme Court Brief on Mushroom Law
Skip Atley
- Tuesday, November 23, 1999 at 21:13:51 (PST)

This has some of the most researched, and up-to-date, information on the laws surrounding the Sacred Mushroom. The cases and arguments made can be applied to any non-specified entheogen as well. Futher, more detailed research, (Supreme Court Briefs are limited in pages), can is available. Contact at email: ETfunguy69@address_removed>
Atley v. Iowa, United States Supreme Court Brief
Skip Atley
- Monday, November 22, 1999 at 15:35:08 (PST)

I want to note that I think the information both facts and experiences shared by Erowid is beyond greatness!!! It has been helpful in many ways for myself andI refer to it often. I try to share my knowledge gained from this site with all whom it may benefit. It would be nice if this type of information were more available via. media. Until then I will continue to "turn-on" as many people that I can to benefit as I have. Thanks for being there. How else can I be involved?
T
- Monday, November 22, 1999 at 05:31:59 (PST)

You should put in your site, how to make LSD (in the form of gelcaps.)
Richard
- Sunday, November 21, 1999 at 20:33:28 (PST)

Thanks for your "Sesame Balls" recipe regarding psilocybin mushrooms. They tasted fantastic and I had a blast!
lotus_eater
- Friday, November 19, 1999 at 14:39:03 (PST)

Having recently been arrested on a misdemeanor possession of marijuana charge, I have read over your cannabis FAQ numerous times and am happy to report that it has not only helped me cope with the ethical qualms I have been feeling as a result of my conviction, but it has armed with scads of knowledge with which to discuss this situation with my loved ones. Thanks a lot!
Trevor Tremaine
- Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 12:29:40 (PST)

Hi folks! I'd be happy if you'd link my page although its written German. All the way, I like your pages. For me they're the most informative pages on drugs in the net, even yet, while there are no information about Germany... ;) Greetings, Darkrond
Drug politics in Germany
Darkrond der Rote
- Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 08:06:07 (PST)

the more i explore this site the more i am impressd. i am very thankful to have you as a resource.
just keep doing a good job your page is pretty comprehensive already.
lail118
- Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 12:10:58 (PST)

This is a great page. I have a great interest in drugs and what they do to people and socity. I think often people asume they know alot about drugs when realy they know nothing. This site clears up alot of the nonsense and tells it like it is.
nwalker
- Monday, November 15, 1999 at 16:31:36 (PST)

Thank you so much for all of your information. I have found your info on abinthe and mushrooms to be very helpful. As well as info on 5-meo-DMT, poppies and "k". Thank you for taking the time to help out others in there quest for homemade goodies! peace!
More info on nutmeg, catnip, juniper, bananna peels? extacy?
Urban Herbalist
- Sunday, November 14, 1999 at 14:30:03 (PST)

Wonderful site. I am seeking like minded adults to discuss mushrooms and their links to spiritual journeys. I'm in the California Bay Area.
Sheri
- Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 15:45:11 (PST)

Wonderful site. I am seeking like mided adults to discuss mushrooms and their links to spiritual journeys. I'm in the California Bay Area.
Sheri
- Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 15:45:01 (PST)

Its really nice to see a page with the truth .me and amber was checkin the page out and we just wanted to let you no the page rally rules.!!!!Weed!!!all!!!! drugs!!!
Dawn Carter
- Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 08:57:34 (PST)

good to find a page that aint full of shit and tells it how it is, keep it real. Best night out? Every 2 weeks at Tribal Funktion. to dance.
mango
- Thursday, November 11, 1999 at 05:51:07 (PST)

your page is awesome
Amber Godbey
- Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 08:58:03 (PST)

This is by far the most accurately composed site concerning drugs and their ramifications. I don't think no other entheogen site can compete with Erowid.
hey, I was wondering if you can include some info regarding the effects of the opium poppy. I am truly enthralled with this plant of the gods.
hemptimes magazine
Ulysses
- Tuesday, November 09, 1999 at 13:03:49 (PST)

I'm extremely impressed with the correct knowledge and insight on every subject. You've been very informative. Thank you.
Rebecca
- Monday, November 08, 1999 at 01:18:05 (PST)

Thank you for reassuring me that I am not alone in my neverending curiosity:)
gina
- Sunday, November 07, 1999 at 23:59:01 (PST)

A wonderfuly presented, well organized and incredibly educational site overall. Very Good work.
Theres a rather glaring gap in the spirituality section (imho) The Bahai Faith: <---they have many good ideas that bring forward the search for wisdom. At the very least, set up a link to the Universal House of justice website. and The Hidden Words of Baha'ullah are a must read (theuy're available , complete, in many languages, online) if only for their extremely beautiful poetic expression of the the search for & practice of spirituality
Jay Gee
- Sunday, November 07, 1999 at 15:49:09 (PST)

I really think the movement for spritual progress and encouraging the wisdom and power of mushrooms is a wonderful action. I appreciate this webpage and its information. Mushrooms should be respected as one of the great psychoactive plants/fungi and foods which can alter consciousness. Thanks for making this learning and understanding possible for more people.
I'd like to be able to check out more info and images on psilocybes from specifically northwest oregon forests. As well as their descriptions and other identification factors. This would be a great help for me. Maybe some resources to contact for people who have skills in identifying mushrooms as well. Thanks!
Evan Johnson
- Sunday, November 07, 1999 at 13:36:36 (PST)

A wonderfully informative site.I only wish that the governments of the world could be as informative in these particular topics.We need more sites like this.Keep up the good work,peace and respect to you all kevin pfister norway
kevin pfister
- Friday, November 05, 1999 at 12:19:05 (PST)

I have recently been informed of the possibility of a 'conspiracy' of some sort that I found interesting, and was wondering what other informed individuals thought. During the Vietnam War, when the social consciousness and possibilty for change were at their peak, it was rumored that the goverment flooded the country with LSD in order to distract the protestors. Now, on the eve of a new millineum, the Republicans are regaining power and there is a lot of tension between superpowers due to nuclear test ban disagreements. Things are going to get very messed up, and now MDA seems absolutley huge and getting bigger. could the same thing be happening again to distract those who could make a difference by blissing everyone out? I realize this is a bit fatalistic and paranoid, but none of us really know whats going on behind closed doors. Please feel free to email comments to CosmicMaelstrom@address_removed thanx, Tensegrity
Tensegrity
- Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 08:54:07 (PST)

I have recently been squandering my time at college browsing the internet for good quality drug-related pages. I came across this whilst searching for info on Khat and I've been exploring the vaults of Erowid for about 3 hours now. I'm amazed at the depth and quality of these pages when compared to the majority of other websites trying to offer a similar content - you seem to have covered everything and lost nothing as a result. I will be visiting these pages regularly from now on. Thankyou.
there is a book offering very detailed and excellent advice about the safest way to take (and prepare to take where hallucinogens are concerned) a wide range of popular drugs, from the perspective of a drug user. It is humourous and indespensible when trying something for the first time. I don't know if there is a place for a reccomendation on this site but if so here are the details. This Book, The Truth About Drugs (with full colour cannabis guide) ISBN 1 871 584 035 Publishers - Those Publishers PO BOX 10059 London NW2 6WR England
Phil Dacey
- Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 02:00:50 (PST)

i was just wondering if you all are stoners, or acid head heads. and also you guys are are having a wanderfu,l cause peace!!

Ben Miles
- Friday, October 29, 1999 at 11:55:29 (PDT)

I was impressed by your intentions statement and I thank you for free information. I am thankful for all the information I have recieved from your vaults. I am new to the internet and did not know things lie this exsisted for free. Its hard to get this kind of information from other sources. thanks very much.
I haven't found any information on ether yet, but I haven't been through the whole site yet either.

john of the jungle
- Friday, October 22, 1999 at 14:38:05 (PDT)

I have humbly come before you to ask another question if I may? Has anyone tryed Morning Glory seeds and Syrian Rue seeds? I was think 5 grams of the first and 3 of the second. How does that sound?
Dionysus (sp?) twice born in grief So Dionysus (sp?) dusth give relief Have a drink And be ye merry Just pay respect Or be ye weary

Northern Star
- Wednesday, October 20, 1999 at 14:57:37 (PDT)

I have to say this is my favorite web page in existance. How you manage it so well, is beyond me. I do have a question if anyone would be so kind to respond. Hypothetically how would amanita muscaria and morning glory seeds be together. Would this be a problem and what dosages would be recomended?
A page on the effects of mixing certain substances and the bennefits and dangers there of.

Northern Star
- Monday, October 18, 1999 at 08:39:31 (PDT)

Screamingly beautiful intention is laced into the words of these works of lore, being so in the concepts nearclosest definition. What can be found by the seeking in these few, superficially insignificant, but innately touching megabytes is truly astounding... My horizons have been expanded profoundly within the past hour, and only a fragment of Erowids wisdom have I consumed. Thus, I pay my respect, with seven lines of admiring homage to the sages of knowledge who are made manifest within these words...
Keep the word pure in purpose; the intention clear in essense. Vale
Asmodeon
- Sunday, October 17, 1999 at 18:06:53 (PDT)

This is the greatest website i hae pondered on!
well, this isnt information, but a question. If I took 2 hits of acid friday, can i do it again the next day? Is there a tolerance level or any dangers?
jino
- Saturday, October 16, 1999 at 13:20:31 (PDT)

This is a much-needed and excellently designed site. Kudos to all. As I research psilocybin-producing mushrooms of northwestern Ontario (quite a task - there aren't many), I'm sure I will refer to your site often. Thanks again! Laura
Laura of the North
- Tuesday, October 12, 1999 at 17:49:44 (PDT)

You have good page. Some Jr. College student turned me on to it. Will most likely visit you some other time when I have more time to browse.
Methadone En Espanol
Carlos Franco
- Monday, October 11, 1999 at 17:17:48 (PDT)

Not to long ago a reader wrote in t say that senate bill 1428 if passed was going to be the end of Erowid and other sites like it. He was frantic and may in fact been tweeking-- but their is a seriousd side to hisher meanderings. In fact the bill sponsored (incredibly!) by Diane Fienstein with Orin Hatch the Mormon Bishop from Utah as co-sponsor. Section 421 of the bill which may be read by going to www.congress.gov and typing inthe bill # at the prompt.. This section says that it will be a crime to even discuss the use of a psychoactive drug. Feinstein reveals the conservative bitch all of us from SF know her to be. However, this bill is a serious attack on free speech and Erowid should pay more attention!
Edge Magaine
Richard
- Wednesday, October 06, 1999 at 17:21:09 (PDT)

Any and all dreamers out there: I heard this morning on GMA (Good Morning America) Governor Johnson (Rep, New Mexico) promote the legalization of drugs. He takes a responsible and mature stance in his reasoning, the primary one is that drug laws only give the illusion of control, while real controls (ie as in sales and posession of alcohol) are there for the taking. Legalize the stuff and then regulate it. It could be no worse than now. Just think how organized crime would shiver with anger if their number one moneymaker was legalized! I passed my compliments on to the Governor, whose office is easily reached via the Internet. And to think I thought Democrats were liberal! I encourage all to give him support in this fight! The_Majikman
Jimmo
- Tuesday, October 05, 1999 at 16:54:53 (PDT)

brilliant website CANNABIS SHOULD BE LEGALIZED TODAY!!!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
how to make a joint
frankie adamson
- Monday, October 04, 1999 at 14:13:59 (PDT)

AUSTRALIAN DURG RESOURCE SITES IF THERE ARE ANY HELP ME :)
Sorry to sound critical people, your site is a great informational source for many but not for me,i live in Australia, and im not into any non "natural" drugs, i only do salvia shrooms and marijuana. now a couple of things id like addressed 1) i have to buy salvia (Salvia divinorum) which is legaly sold here, but i would be interested as to where i could find it in aus. 2)marijuana is fine, im well versed on it, but shrooms, having read the aussie and nz mushrooms guide on your site, i find myself slighty enlightened but not enough really, i would really love somebody who is knowledgable of australian magic mushrooms, so as i could email or icq them questions about what shrooms i have found, an australian resource would be really great - infact anyone who can help or has an aussie site containing info on shrooms here, or mainly (being selfish) the north coast region of australia. i know i may be a small minority and i would be interested to see if there are others. Thanks. and sorry to babble on i dont mean to retract anything from your site
Evilsmurf
- Monday, October 04, 1999 at 06:49:19 (PDT)

I would highly praise your site, however were sure there are no words for the many hours of work it must have taken to assemble all the abstracts, tables, figures, references, not to mention the web formatting. A job well done! -- your effort really shows. We can appreciate this since our magazine is similar in that many to not realize the many hours behind the scene. We are currently developing our cite and would like to link to yours. More importantly at this time , we would like to invite you to speak at a millenium celebration conference that Psychedelic Illuminations is currently organizing. If interested we will send you more info.
Psychedelic Illuminations Magazine / Ron Piper
- Tuesday, September 28, 1999 at 07:31:12 (PDT)

thank the gods for Erowid- I'm linking you to my website: The Drug Workshop-- in the meantime check out Dr.Wilmot's paper "Euphoria" which forms the basis for Harm Reduction-- the newest form of substance abuse counseling that is not an abstience model-- go to OISC website 9see above then to Links then to "Euphoria" and to Harm Reduction Protocals under Services
how about an IMAGE of ephedra-- let's see the little *&&^^&)&**_*!
Oakland Independence Support Center
richard
- Monday, September 27, 1999 at 23:22:07 (PDT)

Mid-day pick up take five mollies and two more hits of acid
Ok i advise smokin about eight grams of some premo Crank ok then to calm the nerves three bumps of special k when the crank is peekin ingest about eight hits of strong paper hits and a sugar cube with three drops of liquid. then pop some xanax and your set for the school day
Meth And You
Jebadia Yokeum
- Wednesday, September 22, 1999 at 15:35:24 (PDT)

Hi :) I just wanted to make a comment on the fantastic quality of this site. I'm overwhelmed. As a fairly dogmatic student of history, my opinion of internet research is quite on par with my ideas of citing an encyclopedia in a college level paper. However, there are a few gems of true scholarship sailing the web--Erowid's Vault is clearly such a place. I wanted to extend my sincere thanks to the organziers and volunteers who have put together such a remarkable and intelligent collection of information. I leave this site much enlightened, and pleased to have a source of information that I can depend upon in the future.
Ryan Bunting
- Wednesday, September 22, 1999 at 11:19:34 (PDT)

vous déconnez beaucoup trop. on ne déconne pas dans l'atelier.
everything i found here is everything i wanted to know....
corbier fan club
pierre
- Friday, September 17, 1999 at 06:53:24 (PDT)

My husband went out for a couple of beers with his frinds a couple of weeks ago, to celebrate his birthday. The "gift" he received was that one of his moronic friends added GHB to his beer. He became violently ill, puked up everything he'd eaten for the last 24 hours, had to be assisted from the bar, and was taken home in a state of confusion and paranoia. He continued to puke for a while then went into a deep - nearly unarousable - sleep. When he awoke he had what felt like the worlds worst hangover - after drinking 2 beers. THATS NOT EXACTLY A GOOD DRUG IN MY ESTIMATION............. ----------AND NOW I FIND OUT THAT IT CAN KILL YOU!!!! WHY ARE YOU PROMOTING A DRUG LIKE THIS?? ARE YOU SICK OR JUST STUPID?

- Thursday, September 09, 1999 at 11:36:53 (PDT)

Erowid Note: Obviously if his 'friends' had read our GHB page they would know that alcohol and GHB cause this reaction. So either the problem came from being totally uninformed about GHB or they were actively trying to ruin your husband's evening. Are we promoting GHB? Of course not. It seems quite likely that you've misunderstood what information is on what site... check the URLs.

I can understand how upset you are by all the dangerous use and misuse of GHB or any drug, but the question remains: what is the best way to limit the risks and dangers ?

Your note here suggests that we include inaccurate or intentionally misleading information. If this is true, we not only welcome specific criticism (you must include a URL, specific problem, and hopefully some supporting evidence) but we actively seek out critical reviews.

Unfortunately exactly none of the people who contact us to say that we need to change our GHB information give us specific data that needs to be changed. While being angry and shaking your fist at our site probably is somewhat satisfying, we are left with the practical problem of what we should do or change to make the world a better, more healthy place.

Erowid recognizes that GHB probably has the worst emergency risk profile of all the recreational psychoactives used (besides alcohol, of course) currently in the club, rave, and psychedelic communities. I find it hard to believe that anyone would read our site and think that we consider it a completely safe drug. Reading the titles of the first 6 entries on our GHB page its hard to imagine that you actually read what we have to say about GHB: "GHB Overdoses & Poisonings", "GHB Precautions", "GHB Addiction & Withdrawals", "GHB Neuropharmacology", "GHB & Sexual Assault", and "GHB Material Saftey Data Sheet".

Yet we are unwilling to remove all information about GHB's positive effects. We believe strongly in providing a balanced collection of information capturing the reasons people do what they do, why they like it, what they _dont_ like about it, what the likely and unlikely risks are, what the idiosyncratic reactions are, what research has been done, and what the laws are.

GHB overdoses are a serious problem in the world and more specifically a problem in our community. Death is infrequent but does occur, but convulsions, vomiting, enormous hospital bills, and a couple of days ruined are not uncommon. Even more common, however, is people enjoying GHB like they enjoy alcohol with few dangerous side effects when used properly without accident. All activities have risk, there is no such thing as perfectly 'safe'. It is an open question what percentage of GHB users find themselves at serious risk and one that is not likely to get reliably answered in the current legal and social climate.

For me personally, GHB has too dangerous a risk profile to make it an alcohol replacement, but whether you like it or not, everyone makes this decision for themselves. We believe that more information makes for better decision making.


The reason your site is at risk of being shut down is that it contains enormous amounts of misinformation. I suppose it's possible that you really believe all the half-truths and lies , but you have obviously made a point of downplaying risks and encouraging the use of very dangerous drugs.

I work in the ICU of a small New England hospital. In the last month we have had two cases of near deaths from GHB ingestion. Both patients had to be put on respirators as they were not breathing enough to keep their bodies oxygentated. One of the patients was so confused and disoriented that he drank his own urine from his bedside urinal. The other patient was arrested, when he recovered, for felony assault. He became violent after taking the GHB and caused serious injury to the host of the part he was attending. Luckily he was arrested because otherwise no one would have known that he had become comatose and was not breathing. To further complicate his treatment, none of his so-called friends (who you seem to think are going to be able to save each other) would inform the police or the doctors, that these young men had been doing GHB.

So before you continue to casually misinform thousands of young adults and teen-agers about the wonders of this drug, you should really do some medical research and look at the deaths and serious medical problems that this drug can and has caused.


Registered Nurse, ICU
- Thursday, September 09, 1999 at 10:35:08 (PDT)

Erowid Note: As a nurse in an ICU you are probably aware of how little training is given to medical professionals in dealing with the newest psychoactives people are using. Some emergency personel have had experience dealing with GHB Overdoses, but very few can see anything but unrousable comas. How many unnecessary intubations and ICU treatments go on because the level of knowledge is so low and the lack of ability to differentiate GHB mini-comas from other types of more life threatening comas?

Certainly I would rather be intubated than inhale my own vomit and have myself brought people to emergency treatment for accidental ODs, but I have also been around milder GHB ODs that were rushed to hospitals when it was completely unnecessary.

And, of course, erowid is in no danger of being shut down.


Please put information about Senate Bill:1428 Feinstein/Hatch, (which may lead the end of your website) on the front page of your website. This pro-drugwar domino must not fall. Freedom is at stake. I just cannot believe it's not front page news on your website. In my opinion it should be plainly outlined so folks can just click' onto it. This proposed law makes me want to puke. I guess i'll just say, "Goodbye Erowid, it's been an enlightening journey of learning. Thank you, but i fear your days of free speech are at a dusk. A dark night is coming i fear, i never thought i'd say it but if this law passes i'm moving to the hills and am going to try to just disappear. But they'll find us wont they?? The new naziism has arrived folks. I'm downright scared. I can't take up violence, i've decided against that, however if i end up in prison, violence is the only answer. Prison is a hellhole where only the Christian religion is allowed to exist, sanctioned by the wardens and guards. Please, people need to be aware of this Bill. This is it folks. "It's over".
Scared Crooked
- Tuesday, September 07, 1999 at 14:42:30 (PDT)

Fab site. I'm sure you can imagine the kind of trouble I've got into after finding your site. Nice to know I can travel the world and still get hammered (if I was into that kind of thing!)
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Jon
- Monday, September 06, 1999 at 09:31:32 (PDT)

High quality pictures. Bravo!
More infos about australian plants!
Bongoman
- Saturday, August 28, 1999 at 01:59:44 (PDT)

bad ass site!
cannabis_times
- Friday, August 27, 1999 at 15:25:28 (PDT)

there is too much to do re changing attitudes to waste time praising something which is so obviously beneficial, but your site is an inspiration to foot soldiers everywhere. As a huge fan of GHB, would anyone like to contact me about their positive experiences, rather than harping on about its abuse potential. If we believe the hype, England will go the same way as America, and another potential liberator will bite the dust.
Jason Price
- Friday, August 27, 1999 at 06:48:17 (PDT)

U go. Love this site. Booyaa 4 technology.
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Jerry Lambert
- Wednesday, August 25, 1999 at 20:29:28 (PDT)

bravo!!! peace love unity respect
nuc
- Tuesday, August 24, 1999 at 21:49:06 (PDT)

This is a test of the guestbook
sage
- Wednesday, August 18, 1999 at 16:56:57 (PDT)

I think this is a most informative and interesting site. I am doing a paper on Ghb and my paper will be top notch because of your help. So, thank you. My only "negative" comment is why is the font color gray instead of black or blue. It is so hard to read when I printed it out. A darker gray would be better than a washed out 25% wash. Anyway, thank you again. And I will be visiting your site again. Someone has gone to a lot of effort to type in and maintain so much information on these subjects. I am only at the stage now of accummulating information on Ghb. It seems to me that Ghb is being misused. Men are using it to knock the women out for easy sex, when in truth the drug is a sexual enhancer and should be used accordingly. Gee! Our society can't read or something? Thanks again for all the help and hope to hear from you if that is a secondary use of this comment box. Good night. MEF
Mary Ferguson
- Sunday, August 15, 1999 at 20:07:18 (PDT)

Hail Erowid!!! This site is my guide, master and mentor!!! My experiences wouldn't be so enlightening without this site. My life has become much better since I learned your lessons. What you do for us has no price. We now can experiment safely, wisely and happily.

Peace, Unity, Love and Respect!
Marcos.

- Saturday, August 14, 1999 at 07:02:54 (PDT)

an irc channel would be cool. otherwise, great. better than the lycaeum
zion89
- Friday, August 13, 1999 at 15:24:37 (PDT)

I'm putting together a book and I need recipes on entheogens and al that shit!!! If you have any email them to me at theroach_6@address_removed thanks:)
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roach
- Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 17:37:59 (PDT)

Thank you,EROWID crew,for hooking us up to your great and wide and deep site, our mainman@address_removed will return the favour. May the stash always be with you,Cannabinol.
hi,hempsters,stoners and otherwise intoxicated persons, Just linked our homepages to this HUGE site, telling we have a live webcam on top of our dopedealscale, as i write this, Maarten, our mainman@address_removed is setting up the first webcam in the Global Hempmuseum, pointed on our 5 LEGAL GROWING AND FLOWERING SINSEMILLAPLANTS. Cannabinol, founder Global Hempmuseum.
Nol van Schaik,aka:Cannabinol
- Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 06:59:16 (PDT)

i think that this website is really informative and one of the best sites on expanding your mind and altering your reality ....excellent site and i hope to donate very soon thanks...
more cannabis info and also more on the people who actually are practicing thier sprituality through mind altering substances....

michele dain
- Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 18:00:43 (PDT)

My boyfriend called from Japan yesterday, asking me to find out whether hydrogene peroxide is harmful to shrooms (he doesn't have access to the internet right now). I found this wonderful site and was able to have the answer within minutes. I just want to express my respect for all those who maintain and contribute to this important resource. The world in which we currently live is overwrought with distrust and ignorance towards alternate forms of consciousness and those who strive to explore the possibilities. People such as myself, at the beginning of their own search, need such a network of not only enlightening, but well organized and maintained information. Thank you to all and I hope only success and safety for each of you.
Bug
- Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 15:22:35 (PDT)

this place is so cool. and informative

bongborg
- Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 12:30:18 (PDT)

I've read a lot from your site and I am very impressed and thank you for your efforts. I am glad to have people like you around. Maybe I'll see you at a rave. Email me if your in the Seattle area.
I think more information on RAVEs should be here for newbie ravers. Maybe I missed it, I hope not. The RAVE scene in the most incredible experience of my life and I've never been apart of anything like it. I've heard a lot about being E-tarded. I'm curious how this started, if it is true, and how to avoid it. I saw your page on being safe at raves and I loved it but there is a lot more fun about it. Such as E-Toys. VICs vapor rub and masks. Bead necklaces and bracelets. VICs mask... Whistles to warn others of cops that patrol the parties. There is a lot that wasn't there or I didn't find.
Tri-City Thomas
- Monday, August 02, 1999 at 23:53:30 (PDT)

Great site, comprehensive, informative and entertaining..it might just be me but I love reading the Trip reports..I'll have to add my own once I get my hands on something worth tripping er...um..writing about Keep up the great work
The answer to this What don't you have included?
Zach
- Saturday, July 31, 1999 at 17:22:43 (PDT)

Heya! Cool page you have here! Drop by my Web Jukebox if ya like at http://stumaniac.music.webjump.com and sign my g'book! See ya! :-)
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Stuart the Maniac
- Friday, July 30, 1999 at 09:26:14 (PDT)

THIS IS A REALLY COOL PLACE TO BE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS, I WILL BE BACK
MERCURY
- Friday, July 30, 1999 at 01:03:16 (PDT)

I am desperately seeking information about Thailand drug laws. I heard it all from being kick-boxed nastily to death by machine gun. I would like some reasonable information that can tell me what can one expect under different circumstances. This is a HOT issue, please reply to ONLY The_Majikman@address_removed Thanks a bunch!
More information that one can look at and make a sound decision regarding smuggling small amounts of drugs out of certain countries
Jimo
- Thursday, July 29, 1999 at 12:38:23 (PDT)

Good site,U answered a lot of questions. The doctors say that ecstasy side effects will make us depressed forever, but I think that whenever I drive through the west side or uncover an old rave flier-- side effects or not, I'll have a smile on my face. Like it or not--- E is a part of me.
Sleepy
- Wednesday, July 28, 1999 at 23:58:24 (PDT)

I am really happy to see the extent of information on your page. I was very glad to see that you covered so much. I will definately visit again.
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Carmen
- Wednesday, July 28, 1999 at 21:59:46 (PDT)

:)
Barzo Murzog
- Friday, July 23, 1999 at 13:28:39 (PDT)

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RASTANIC
- Tuesday, July 20, 1999 at 00:21:22 (PDT)

This is an AWESOME site!!! VERY INFORMATIVE and enlightening!!! KEEP IT UP!!!!!!!
T. Roberts
- Sunday, July 18, 1999 at 03:05:31 (PDT)

peace bro.....thanx for the honey oil tip!!!!!

- Saturday, July 10, 1999 at 13:18:28 (PDT)

I have enjoyed your pages of knowledge and wisdom, and would like to thank you for posting such an enormous amount of literature at my disposal...
well i would like to see some pictures of the marijuana plant from seed stage to full bloom but i cant find any pictures of any plants that are younger than 3 weeks so i dont know if my plants are growing properly and they are to young to sex... if ou can help in any way possible please let me know when you get a chance :) Thank you Very much Sincerly Anthar Bloodbone
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Anthar Bloodbone
- Tuesday, July 06, 1999 at 20:12:13 (PDT)

Hi Guys All I can say is that since my son has found your very interesting site, I have had to take out a second mortgage. In saying that I rather he has the info than not. Cool site. Regards Kerry Thackwell
Kerry Thackwell
- Tuesday, July 06, 1999 at 14:56:40 (PDT)

Hi man I am very impressed with your site,it has lots of usefull info and I think its that good that I could stay on it for hours on end. regards Jamie Thackwell
Jamie Thackwell
- Tuesday, July 06, 1999 at 14:50:24 (PDT)

I just read with great fascination, Magic Mushrooms of Australia and New Zealand. I must congradulate the publishers for their daring bravado. These publications are illegal in New Zealand. I found the information herein in this great book to be amazingly accurate. The locations given are proven gropunds for collecting Copelandia and Liberty caps.. Keep up the good work. I should mention that the only mushrooms illegal in New Zealand are psilocybe cubensis and mexicana. Hahahaha. Neither of these two occur here. Bill Robersts. esl@address_removed>
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Bill Roberts
- Saturday, July 03, 1999 at 09:50:01 (PDT)

I very much like the information that you have posted on your site. I have found it to be very insightful, furthermore the posted info has helped prevent me from potential negative drug interactions (I'm on 100mg of Zoloft a day). I like to read the personal experiances of influence upon substances. I am unable to experiment with many of the illicit substances out there, but am intriged by them. It is somewhat satisfying to read about their effects, and stay free of them at the same time. I however would perfer to indulge in them myself, but can't. I also would like to say that I am greatful for your insistance to use the information in a responsible manner. I have nothing but positive things to say about what you have done as far as this web site, and its information. You have helped my cranium become larger; swelling with knowledge that you have provided! Keep it up, and you have my eternal support in your endeavors. Peace, Kreutermann
I would like to see more information on potential legal natural psychoactive plants. Even information on non-psychoactive natural herbs/plants would prove to be enlightening. I myself am particularly interested in medicinal anthropology, and find it hard to gather reliable resources to further my knowledge, and provide new doors to more theories and information. I would also like to see any sort of information on the topic of theraputic uses of psychoactive substances on people with mental illnesses and emotional problems.
Kreutermann
- Friday, July 02, 1999 at 20:54:44 (PDT)

I think erowid is doing a great job on helping people trying to find alternet drugs that are safe and legal to use.its cool that to say to the government fuck you I'm still getting high.
velvet moonshine
- Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 11:06:30 (PDT)

I'd like to see dosage info. on the blue lotus or nymphaea caerulea
velvet moonshine
- Thursday, July 01, 1999 at 10:58:45 (PDT)